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外国网友也在想他 Wings为何如此特别

[MOBA论坛] [已跟帖]2017-8-26 1:01:29 作者:碳酸饮料 来源:龙腾网ltaaa

导读Wings为何如此特别..

英语原文来自reddit论坛:

I'm kind ofnew to the scene and Ti7 was my first dota 2 TI. Whiletrying to understand Pro Dota, I kept hearing about how amazing Wings Gamingwas and their dominant run in Ti6. I don'treally understand what made them so special.

Was ittheir picks?

Their runthrough ti6?

Theirplayers?

我是个Dota2萌新。Ti7是我第一次看Dota2国际邀请赛。当我尝试着去了解职业Dota时,就一直有人向我安利Wings战队是如何如何牛逼,以及他们砍瓜切菜一般速通Ti6的传奇。只是我还没完全领会是什么让这只队伍在你们看来如此特别。

他们的ban选无懈可击?

他们迅速通关了Ti6?

他们的队员?

Godisme2139

They couldplay any hero.

Most teamsyou know what to ban against them as they have a core set of heroes they like.

Wingsdidn’t have that.

They playedevery hero and every hero in different roles.

Most teamswere at a complete loss as to what to ban against them as they didn't even playthe op meta heroes most of the time and pulled out random strategies that weresuper fun to watch.

他们所有英雄都能打。

许多战队都有自己的一套核心阵容和英雄,你知道该Ban哪些英雄来针对他们。

但Wings没有。

他们几乎所有英雄都拿过,并且用他们打过所有位置。

大多数队伍对阵Wings的时候,在Ban选阶段就经历滑铁卢,因为Wings多数情况下不会拿版本热门英雄,他们的战术非常随机,这也让他们的比赛很有观赏性。

OverweightPlatypus

Draft/picks.

You couldnot outdraft them because they picked the most number of heroes in the game andplayed the most number of different strats.

You couldnever predict what they would pick or what they would ban or what they wouldplay which makes it very interesting.

Builds.

Wings wasalso notorious for going with very strange builds.

They(in)famously beat Liquid in ESL using with a Bloodstone Dazzle, and pioneered afew builds like Linkens first Void.

Keep inmind that during TI6, there were no talents yet so the meta and hero builds wasquite a bit more defined than compared in TI7.

Theirplayers and their play.

Theirplayers were completely unknown players, each their first time at TI.

Their playwas sublime in that the only "strat" they really did was to be thebest team at utilizing item/hero timings.

They gaveup first blood in the majority of their games only to come back and stomp themid game the second they got their key items up.

How didthey do it?

Throughsome of the best teamfighting and team coordination ever seen in Dota.

Its not theperfectly executed Black Holes by Universe, but rather countless smallindividual plays from every player that shifts the fight to their advantage andthey pull out teamfight wins from out of nowhere.

It was veryfun to watch because they loved to brawl and teamfight which made games feelfast paced.

On the mainstage, they lost 2 games total.

Both gamesthey picked Pudge, one of them the picked Pudge + Techies.

Other thanthose games, every game they played, it never looked like they could lose itIMO.

They'dalways lose the early game, but always won midgame and most importantly, closeout the game spectacularly.

They wereIMHO by far the best team on the main stage to play, at any TI.

OG I thinkmay had been able to take a game off them, but Wings had also beat OG 3-1 inthe Summit prior.

I think inthe end, Wings are the best example of what you want to see in a Dota team.

No-nameplayers that are good individually and unstoppable together.

Endlessvariants of picks, builds, and strategies.

Teamfightingexecuted to perfection, and lots of it.

They justplayed very, very good Dota.

The bestDota in the world in fact.

As WinteRsaid in the TI6 Grand Finals, Wings are the team that has come closest to Dotaperfection.

战术选择/英雄选择

别想在Ban选上压制Wings,他们在比赛中拿过几乎所有英雄,使用过几乎所有战术。

你几乎想不到他们会拿或者Ban什么,正因如此,他们的比赛相当的有意思。

出装

Wings还因各种神经出装而臭名昭著。

他们漂(wu)亮(chi)地在ESL比赛中用出血精石的戴泽干掉了Liquid战队,并且开发了诸如第一件出林肯法球的虚空之类的出装套路。

要知道,在Ti6的时候,并没有天资特别出众者,但Ti6比Ti7不管在对版本理解和英雄出装上都诠释地更加彻底。

他们的队员和技艺。

他们的队员几乎都是路人,所有人都是第一次参加Ti。

在他们用娴熟的技艺把“以不变应万变”这一唯一战术诠释到极致。他们是真正将出装/英雄强势期利用到极致的最强战队。

大多数对局中Wings都早早交出一血,但都能够运筹帷幄,获取关键道具,并且掌控游戏中期。

他们是如何做到的?

纵观Dota中那么多场经典团战和团队协作,

真正力挽狂澜的往往不是谜团跳大五个,而是每个队员数不清的小规模发挥为团队积累优势,通过团队合作将均势逐渐转化为胜势。

他们的比赛非常有趣,因为他们喜欢打架和团战,这让比赛节奏感觉很快。

在正赛阶段,他们只输了两场比赛。

两场比赛中他们都选了屠夫,其中一场他们还拿了屠夫+炸弹人组合。

除了这两场比赛,他们所有其他比赛,在我看来,都没有半点要输的意思。

他们在比赛初期总是处于劣势,但总能掌控中期,更重要的是,让人拍案叫绝地赢下比赛。

恕我直言,他们是Ti正赛史上最强的战队。

OG曾有与Wings一较高下的实力,但Wings在夏季锦标赛上3-1击败了OG。

总结来说,Wings应该是你最想看到的Dota战队的范本。

这些无名的队员,分能独当一面,合则所向披靡。

用不尽的Ban选,出装和战术套路。

多数团战执行几乎完美。

他们把Dota玩儿得如此出神入化。

不愧为世界最强Dota战队。

就如WinteR大神在Ti6总决赛上所说,Wings是最接近完美的Dota战队。

k33p1tr341

They'dseemingly play any heroes in any positions and any style/strategy, and dominateeveryone with some of the most fluid team-play ever seen in DotA.

Even whenthey lost the early game (they often did), you knew they would comeback in themid game with said team-play.

They'd playteams in their own comfort zone (e.g MVP.P) and crush them.

The only 2games they lost on the TI main stage were when they picked Pudge.

They werethe most dominant team at an International ever.

他们似乎会玩儿所有英雄,能打所有位置,适应所有风格/战术,用Dota史上最流畅的团队协作征服了所有人。

当比赛初期陷入劣势的时候(确实经常陷入劣势),你就是知道他们会在中期通过团队协作反败为胜。

让对手用最拿手的阵容(如MVP.P)应战,然后将其抹杀。

他们在Ti正赛阶段输掉的为数不多的两场比赛中拿了屠夫。

不愧是国际尚最有统治力的Dota战队。

Zgdcelimen 回复 k33p1tr341

Pudge +Techies XD

屠夫+炸弹人 XD

TheJewKnows回复 Zgdcelimen

Only gamethey lost though.

他们唯一输掉的比赛

ScarySandwichMan 回复 TheJewKnows

They lost agrand final game.

他们在总决赛中也输了一场。

LordDuder 回复ScarySandwichMan

Against theeventual finalists too at that.

They madeit look so easy.

It was asif they were fucking around with DC.

总决赛里也是拿这个组合输的。

感觉Wings获胜简直易如反掌。

感觉就特么地跟在调戏DC战队似的。

Freakanime

Nobodymention yet but outside of their drafts and outstanding team fight one of thebest thing about wings is their item choices.

They willbuild their items that will cater the team strategy and counter the other teamswith their item builds even its not the norm for a hero to build that item theywill build it to have an advantage.

除了Ban选和出色的团战发挥,还有一点没人提到,Wings战队最高明的地方在于装备选择。

他们会选择与团队战术相契合的装备,并用灵活的出装反制其他队伍,通过出装建立优势,即便看起来某些英雄出这装备蠢爆了。

Raineru

This kind of thread make me hate ACE once again in knowing, to somedegree, they have made the team disband :/

这篇文章又点燃了我对ACE的恨意,某种意义上是ACE导致了Wings的解散:/

str_d2

Fuck man Ifucking miss Wings so fucking much.

Go to hellACE bastards

F*ck~~我太特么想Wings了!

下地狱吧,ACE

Mjforn

The true"generation of miracles".

Usually udraft based on the strat you have in mind but that's not how they draft.

They justliterally choose which hero they think is better on the current scenario thenexecute it perfectly.

They arethe proof that dota 2 is all about execution and teamwork.

Wings是真正的“奇迹一代”

通常人都是按照自己脑海中的战术来Ban选,但Wings却不这么想。

他们就选一些他们认为在当下情形下更好发挥的英雄,然后将其作用发挥到极致。

他们证明了执行力和团队协作是Dota的灵魂。

WUMIBO

They didn'tgive a shit about having favorite heroes, they picked heroes that exploitedweaknesses of their enemies' heroes, regardless of how out-of-meta the herowas.

Watchingthem draft was weird.

They wouldfind a way to use heroes people forgot about to shut down their opponent'spicks.

I thinkthey had a huge influence on the current meta.

Before TI6,patches had their light and dark spots.

Some heroeswere straight up bad and some strategies were straight up bad, most teamsplayed accordingly and fought over meta heroes.

Wingsdidn't give a shit, the way they drafted, it was like they used the hero poolas a toolbox and grabbed whatever they needed for the job.

Sometimeswhen you see teams do this, their gameplay suffers and they look uncomfortableon their heroes, etc. Wings were fucking impeccable.

Everythingfrom their teamfights, high ground defense, itemization, pushes, and ganks hadthis crisp, neat, calm and collected feel about it.

And thisteam was so bad most of the year, they got dead last at Manila Major.

It was likethe flip of a switch comparing their year to their run just before and at TI6.

Captainslike EE and PPD talked about drafting against them, they were just baffled anddidn't know what to ban against them.

Since then,I think more heroes have been picked at tournaments, and we saw a variety ofplay styles at TI7 that were all viable.

他们丝毫不在乎自己有没有最喜欢的英雄,所选择的英雄都是冲着对手英雄的弱点而来的,不管这个英雄有多不适合现在的版本。

看Wings的Ban选太特么诡异了。

他们选择那些被人遗忘的英雄,想办法发挥他们的作用,从而完全克制对手的阵容。

我想Wings会对如今的版本产生巨大影响。

Ti6之前,一代版本一代神。

有些英雄脏的不行,有些战术也脏的不行,所有的战队都在围绕着版本大热英雄打。

Wings不以为然,他们的英雄池就像个工具箱,需要什么就随手抄起什么。

当你看到其他战队这么做的时候,他们的游戏体验往往极差,对自己的英雄也极不顺手。但Wings就是特么的无懈可击。

他们的团战、高地防御、出装、推进和gank都给人一种干净利落、游刃有余的感觉。

但这只队伍今年的大部分时间都挣扎在生死边缘,终于在马尼拉特锦赛后撒手人寰。

Ti6前后,这支队伍简直判若两人。

EE和PPD这样的团队领袖曾对针对Wings的Ban选有过这样的评价,感觉全程一脸懵逼,不知道该Ban啥来针对他们。

自那以后,在各项锦标赛中,更多的英雄得到了出场机会,我们也得以在Ti7上看到更风格更加丰富的比赛。

Godisme2

They couldplay any hero.

Most teamsyou know what to ban against them as they have a core set of heroes they like.

Wings didnthave that.

They playedevery hero and every hero in different roles.

Most teamswere at a complete loss as to what to ban against them as they didn't even playthe op meta heroes most of the time and pulled out random strategies that weresuper fun to watch.

他们所有英雄都能打。

许多战队都有自己的一套核心阵容和英雄,你知道该Ban哪些英雄来针对他们。

而Wings却没有。

他们几乎所有英雄都拿过,并且用他们打过所有位置。

大多数队伍对阵Wings的时候,在Ban选阶段就经历滑铁卢,因为Wings多数情况下不会拿版本热门英雄,他们的战术非常随机,这也让他们的比赛很有观赏性。

Youthsonic 回复 Godisme2

Yeah a lotof times I'm sure most teams know what counters what, but Wings would actuallypick it.

In theoryWing's draft counters EG's step by step but it still looks pretty wonky andreally hard to pull off against an easier draft (in theory).

But wingsis wings and they eventually stomped EG after losing the early game prettyhandily.

Same withthe second game now that I've rewatched it.

Wing'sdraft makes zero sense and looks really hard to pull off, but they do itbecause they have 100% trust in each other.

Edit: fucklook at that rosh fight in the second game.

Wings hadto chain like three abilities together to take sumail down.

Team washonestly nuts.

同意,好多时候我确信多数战队对英雄相生相克心知肚明,但Wings恰恰喜欢反其道而行。

理论上来说Wings的Ban选每一步都压制了EG,但看起来他们的阵容十分牵强,很难与EG稳健的阵容相抗衡(只是理论上)。

但Wings就是Wings,在比赛前期经历小小挫折之后最终把EG摁在地上摩擦。

看了第二遍之后,我发现第二局形势也基本如此。

Wings的Ban选看似毫无章法,看起来摇摇欲坠,他们敢于这么做因为队员彼此之间100%的信任。

插一句:吐血推荐你们去看看第二场比赛Roshan处的团战。

Wings的队员使用三个技能的连环Combo爆了Sumail的菊花。

这疯狗般的团队协作。

EternalFaII回复 Youthsonic

I clickedthat link and looked at the draft and...

EG WinterWyvern in match 2.

Of coursethey lost the series.

我点进了你给的链接,看了Ban选,怎么说呢...

看见EG在第二场中拿了寒冬飞龙。

我就知道他们输定了。

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