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LVT质疑Wings作弊 Wings反击称LVT骗钱

[MOBA论坛] [已跟帖]2015-12-24 11:13:46 作者: 来源:sg

在WCA结束后利维坦LVT战队的中单选手发推吐槽赛事,而且提出了自己的质疑,认为Wings战队胜之不武..

  在WCA结束后利维坦LVT战队的中单选手发推吐槽赛事,而且提出了自己的质疑,认为Wings战队胜之不武,以下是他所言内容的翻译:

  问题一

  十七号一早他们告诉我们早上十点要到现场,我们知道当天没有比赛,所以我当时以为我们可以到现场去练习的。因为我们的联系人Lily向我们保证过会有多台电脑在现场供我们练习。到了之后,我们玩了一盘,工作人员告诉说他们需要我们让位,作为正规赛用。我们当然就同意了,在现场逛了一圈45分钟后,我们回倒原地发现5个家伙坐着我们的电脑前玩弄着手机,打着一个像盗版刀塔的手机游戏。

  问题二

  比赛第一天,18号。工作人员通知我们比赛下午3点,早上10点巴士带你们去现场。比赛延迟,我们跟Team YP的比赛下午6点才打。之后我们要等 YP 跟 LGD打完再打下一场,结果他们半夜才打完。(LGD 一小时之前才到的现场,为什么我们要提前6小时到)到了我们比赛的时候,裁判告诉我们如果我们要打完 BO3,我们可能要在现场过夜,因为太晚了,凌晨2点以后就没有交通车。最后我们和 LGD 商量后同意打 BO1 解决,比赛开始时是凌晨1点。我们当时已经疲惫不堪,所以打不出水平也是意料之中。最后我们找到两架的士,在凌晨2点过一点回倒了宾馆。我们基本三点左右才睡着。因为我们被通知第二天早上7点要起准备比赛,你可以想想要马上入睡的难度。

  问题三

  比赛第二天,我们被安排打第一场比赛,比赛时间早上8点。我们6点要起来,被逼坐上7点的巴士。总共给我们休息时间不足4小时,打一场价值 50000 美元的比赛。虽然奖金并不代表一切,我们很想证明我们的能力,跟其他国际强队竞技。不知道 WCA 想什么,让我们睡不上4小时,第一天坐个10小时不让练习。。。 当时还有很多队做弊(尤其是中国队,不光是Dota),但是裁判理都不理,不知道发给我们的规则书有什么用。

  这大概就是我的经历。

  PS: 根据 DC 经理爆料,

  中国队 CF 比赛,主办方让他们比赛前到好热身,结果他们的账号都升到5到6级(我不知道有什么优势),外国队都是1级。外国队投诉,裁判不理,要挟取消资格。最后因为好多队都拒绝比赛,裁判最终才同意。

  Hots 比赛,液体打某中国队,两方面对面坐,5打5,但是对方十几个人,为什么?之前被液体打败的队伍也站在对面,告诉他们液体用什么英雄,怎么打。

  最后 Dota 比赛,Leviathan 跟 Wings Gaming。比赛之前,我们面对面练习,其中一位 Wings 队员的女友走到我们后面,拿出手机拍照,然后回去当着我们的面告诉他们我们选什么阵容。我们向裁判投诉,无效。所以他们跟我们比赛的时候,他们马上一二搬土猫屠夫。一个职业战队,像他们一样公然做弊我也是第一次见到。

  此后有关于这个事件LVT战队的经理也发表了自己的意见

  Hey there,

  Leviathan's manager here. I just wanted to address some of the false claims from wings.

  First off, we did not ask for $5,000 for wings cheating, we asked for our travel expenses to be covered. Expediting passports and visas for the team in the week prior as well as leaving cars at airports and flight changes cost the team around $6,000. I sat down with WCA and told them that if they were not willing to move forward with the disqualification of wings like they had said the night prior they were going to do that we would like if they covered our travel expenses. The tournament had done this in years past for teams and we only felt it fair given the 3 committee members we spoke with all admitted they believed wings cheated but were not willing to do anything about it due to the bad press it would create for WCA. WCA did end up granting our request for reimbursement of travel expenses, they also extended this to all teams. So you are flat out lying about us being denied as well as the reason we asked for compensation.

  The second issue is the manner in which wings cheated. During the draft as well as the games wings had 4-5 players and other people standing around communicating with them. 2 of the players had cell phones out on the table with ear buds connecting to the phones. I saw this as we were kitty corner to each other. These people communicating with wings also had the stream playing, were watching and listening to the cast and communicating with the wings players who were not wearing the provided noise canceling headphones.

  Who cares about being cold? Your team had an entire day off between matches and your hotel was not an hour away from the venue as the foreign team hotel was. My players were playing on 3 hours sleep from the games the night prior.

  You are saying that because it was a girl sneaking behind our team taking pictures that it couldnt be your team? Thats some logic there... We also had TNC members sneaking behind us bumping into players and taking pictures on their phones. TNC players were then standing behind you talking with your team as they played and drafted.

  The main issue here is your team is not without skill so why risk it by breaking so many of WCA's rules and on top of that cheating? You stand to lose so much more than the 50k you won... Hope it was worth it.

  以下是LVT经理的回复/澄清:

  这里是LVT的经理,我这里想说明WINGS的几点声明的错误之处。

  第一,我们因为WINGS作弊并没有要价5000美元,我们只是希望(WCA)报销我们的旅游费用。给队伍加急签证/护照,把车停在机场的停车费用,机票改签费用等等花费了整个队伍6000美元。我和WCA商谈了之后告诉他们如果他们不想像他们昨晚说的把WINGS淘汰的话,他们会报销我们的差旅费用。这个比赛过去曾经一直这样做(应该指的是报销差旅费用),并且我们会觉得这样做至少公平只是因为3个委员会委员(裁判委员会?)都承认了WINGS作弊但是他们不愿意声张这件事情因为他们害怕这件事情给WCA带来不好的影响。WCA最终同意了我们报销差旅费的请求,并且决定对所有队伍都报销差旅费。所以你说我们要求赔偿的原因是在说谎。(此前WINGS的经理JASON表示他们因为指责WINGS作弊而得到的5000美元补偿。)

  第二,是关于WINGS如何作弊的。是在比赛的BP阶段,WINGS的周围有4,5名(其他队员的)选手和其他人员站在他们附近和他们交流。他们其中的两人用手机放在桌子上,并且带着连着手机的耳机。我是在对角线的位置上看见的。这些一直在和WINGS的队员交流的人,还在同时播放比赛的直播,一边在看和听比赛的解说,一边在和WINGS中不带隔音耳机的队员交流。

  谁在意场地很冷?(WINGS的经理表示他们也受到了WCA很差的待遇,他们队员也很冷)你们的队伍小组赛后有整整一天休息,而且你们的酒店并不像外国队伍的酒店异样距离场馆一小时(应该是很近?)。LVT的队员因为前一天的比赛前夜只睡了3个小时。

  你们说我们指控WINGS作弊只是因为有个女孩站在我们队伍后面拍照而这个女孩并不是WINGS的人?这逻辑好奇怪……我们身后也有TNC的队员拍照,然后TNC的队员就在你们队伍(和LVT比赛的时候)站在后面和你们队员交流。

  最重要的是,你们的队伍并不菜,为什么要冒违反这么多WCA规则的风险去作弊呢?你们为所赢的50000(美元)失去了更多的东西。希望你们觉得那很值得。

  而关于这一事件,疑Wings战队领队也在论坛进行了回应

  具体内容:

  事情是这样,我们和他们打的前一天晚上,就看了他们打yp和lgd的录像,新版本,他们喜欢拿屠夫和土猫,我们就说好打这个队就ban这2个,然后偷拍这个事情他们瞎bb,我们去偷拍,他们当时可以直接举报,其实是他们输了,不服气,给主办方说,这个事情传出去不好,叫主办方给他们6000美金,就是一个骗钱的傻屌队,我不知道他们怎么有脸还发出来,事情就是这样。如果还有什么问题可以私信我微博问我,我微博名字是猎杀大魔神。

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